Fellow POW’s say John McCain Was a Coward and a Traitor in Viet Nam.

by Mr. Charrington on January 20, 2008

I remember some weeks ago John McCain was having a cow that the NY Times was going to print an article and a battle ensued. No mention was ever made as to why McCain was actually begging and threatening the NY Times over this article. No further mention as been made about this article and I wonder if this bitter fight that took place according to the editor of the NY Times wasn’t because of the information contained in the video’s below.

John McCain has stood in the way of many a family, loved one and groups from getting our MIA’s and POW’s back. Even though they have more enough proof that there were over a 100 POW’s that were still being held and sent to other country’s. These groups and families point out that John McCain himself is stopping them from getting our fellow countrymen home.

Why?

Fellow POW’s are sure the reason is he was a coward and a traitor as a POW in Viet Nam and it would ruin his political career if this were ever to find its way to the main stream media. They have put together eye witness accounts that describe McCain’s traitorous actions during his time as a prisoner in Viet Nam by his fellow prisoners. Former Senators, Governors and political records flat out nail John McCain as a scared little man on the run from a history of lies and deceit.

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Mr. Charrington 01.20.08 at 3:53 am

This would explain a lot about John McCain’s behavior. His “leave no one behind” war cry seems very empty.

George Gould 01.20.08 at 5:50 am

Brought to you by the people who smeared John Kerry. This is so sad…

Mr. Charrington 01.20.08 at 7:17 am

After being periodically slapped around for “three or four days” by his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

What ???? did you even watch these videos???? — These “people” are Senators, Governors and Political documents that verify this. There definitely NOT the crew that “smeared” Kerry, IF that was a smear at all. The information presented against McCain is not even similar to Kerry’s military arguments. This is quantifiable information much like the Bush military record, where you can actually see and talk to high level authority that HAVE confirmed the information. I mean why would you make a statement like that without looking at who’s making the claims. The only other person to do so is a big time McCain supporter that is trying hard to cover up McCains indiscretions by making invalid statements without anything to back it up except their chocolate blog (thats a smear by the way). They ONLY thing sad about this is McCain lies. Did you happen to watch the video with CNN? Here let me link it to you so you can see for yourself in person real time what John McCain is about ok?

http://polidics.com/iraq-war/is-john-mccain-sane.html

How can you believe this guy for any reason? In his own words he flat out lies to America on the news and in real time CNN just BLAST him for being either mentally retarded or a Liar and I so agree. I think John McCain was captured and as a result of either the crash and or being tortured he cracked under pressure and the ONLY reason that he is trying to keep the families and government from addressing the POW issues is because everyone would know beyond a doubt McCain crack in Viet Nam. It seems that a lot of other people agree with this summary. I mean seriously, were NOT talking about a select few people in the media or McCain protesters, no, it’s MANY senators, Governors, former POW’s and POW families have told this story. Talk about conspiracy theories, this one would take the cake for all these people to collaborate against John McCain and for what reason? I mean none of it makes sense unless you take in to account that McCain is indeed hiding something. We still haven’t heard what the NY Times was going to print? Anyone out there know and care to share? So far they have told McCain that they would hold the story until after the election? holy shit — thanks a million NY Times…

decker 01.28.08 at 10:37 am

It’s funny (strange/sad), we (all, well almost all, well a certain number of us,)….that we continue to seek the ulcerated skin and keep picking at the scabs, slinging accusations like so many antibiotics; allowing the infection to change, adjust, morph, and realign to counter act the slinging.

What’s that axiom? definition of insanity: One who continually performs the same action over and over and expects a different outcome from those actions…… or something like that.

Point being: Ah yes, it is exciting to point out those sores and it is time consuming focusing on and addressing those sores; but where the hell are those sores coming from…. what’s the origin?

We only need to go back a little over 200 years ago. Check out a thing called the Constitution which was subverted into reality in the late 1780′s by a minority group of revolutionary dissidents, wanting to control the wealth (sic read: destruction) of the land and coercive control of a population.

It worked! And is functioning quite well to this moment.

Might be a time for a re-definition, a re-evaluation of our existing model of reality…. our cultural paradigm.

This may be accomplished by open thinking, honest critique (given/received) and an acknowledgment of life’s true values: Air, Water, Food, Social Validity. The value system currently in place is based on arbitrarily contrived worth……. the value of scarcity.,

So, when do we start the real exercise? Identifying values which transcend all borders, religions, ethnicity, physical geography, and any of the other 1000′s of labels contrived to divide us from ourselves.,,, Define value….like air-water-food-social validity and then base one’s thoughts, choices, intentions and how these will impact that which we have agreed to as valuable….that which allows us to “make and do things’.

Trying to figure… pointing out those sores… is just too much bs, a smoke screen obscuring the real issues at hand…. identifying and defining value…….otherwise we end up with sensual overload and eventually submit to the protective layer of pandemonium layed by those who would gain “wealth” from this existing system.

Can we take control of mind, spirit, body, emotion…… of just one person: one’s self?

Start with self and expand to associate….to attract others similarly identifying, defining and agreeing to shared value(s) and developing actions according to those values.

And let the “being” begin. Let the human creative flow. Cuz, in all my travels around this place, when I encountered people with nice living geography, who had adequate supply of food, water and some nice air to breath…… and dynamic social interaction…. each granting validity of the other….,, well, people are really friendly and caring…, it is when effective control, through the politics of scarcity, rears it’s greedy perspective that the unrest and strife increases.

this system…. this paradigm…. it was conceived in lies, secrecy and greed…. the only advances in civil liberties have been in spite of the Constitution….. not because of it…..

IT IS TIME FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION….a complete overhaul.,,,,, with millions and millions of ideas about what should, could, might be served up as a cultural reality.

Mr. Charrington 01.28.08 at 10:52 am

The Constitution was the antibiotic for the sores of the time it was created in and I think Bush is doing your overhaul of the constitution as we speak, I don’t see how taking away civil liberties is helping anything in the universe. The more you change the constitution the more quickly we will have a fascist state and chaos. Without the constitution the Government will control you personally. I don’t think it’s an overhaul of the constitution we need but more of a overhaul of the political system that is needed.

Rob 01.29.08 at 7:09 pm

If you watched the video, you saw for yourself the contempt Kerry and McCain had for these former POW’s and family members of MIA’s. Kerry had financial gain at stake, but what about McCain?

Why did he fight to bury this issue so aggressively, even labeling the activists as vultures and parasites?

Was it because of the 35 audiotapes Hanoi has in their possession that could derail his presidential hopes and shatter his war hero myth? 35 tapes, my he was a chatty POW, wasn’t he? The Rolling Stones don’t have a catalog that big!

Maybe they’ll be released as a box-set one day. Or posted on You-Tube if McCain refuses to do Hanoi’s bidding as he did with the POW/MIA issue. Killing it allowed Vietnam to open normal trade relations with the US.

He’d be the first President to have given aid and comfort to the enemy during a war. And Hanoi has him by the balls.

What if Hanoi were to pull his leash again on behalf of China if he got elected President? Military secrets could be lost, as they were with Clinton’s satellite launching program with China.

We hired a country with a failed rocket program to launch our communication satellites. The rockets failed and exploded. Then we sent over experts to show them what they were doing wrong with their rockets. That technology was transferred to their missile program. And now they used it on their ICBM, which were incapable of hitting the US before.

Mr. Charrington 01.30.08 at 4:55 pm

Right on Rob ….

Ron Dumont 01.31.08 at 1:51 am

All you have to do is put forth the smallest amount of investigation to know WTC 7 was imploded. Giuliani knew those building were coming down. Marvin Bush and cousin Wilt Walker III were head of security of the WTC. C’mon. Giuliani just gave McCain the endorsement. Of all politicians, McCain is the biggest cheerleader for the war. This is big money and big power kiddies. They are all in on it together. Not a conspiracy theory. Just open your eyes. McCain is a horrid person, and our next president. If elections mattered we wouldn’t have W. in the white house. Think about it. Just so happens Kerry was Skull & Bones. Hmmm, interesting.

j.t.evans 02.02.08 at 2:15 am

The video is really impressive. These are the most credible people, not just in the positions they have held, or held then, but in their measured, reasonable manner, their ability to articulate the questions. These are not people who are out to get even or smear anyone; they are looking for an injustice to be remedied, and as yet, it hasn’t been.
The claims of the former POWs are consistent with the suspicions that fmr. Senator Dennis DeConcini holds about McCain being the source of the leaks to the press, regarding the Keating Five scandal. If you leak once, you probably will leak again, if you are trying to protect your own interests. He appears to have been doing just that in the first case, and unquestionably had things to cover in the second case.

charrington 02.02.08 at 2:32 am

I feel the same way. It’s not just McCain “haters” it’s people that have dealt with McCain over the years and have privy to information that the media refuses to show for some reason…

Erika 02.02.08 at 3:14 pm

There is obviously a reason for what McCain did. Such digging in of the heels always has a motive. And people perform according to pattern. Just like he (apparently) leaked to the media in the Keating Five case, it appears he “leaked” to his captors at Hanoi.

Veterans and their families may be pleased to see that coverage is expanding on this question. Check out http;//iperceive.net.

James Mulhern 02.07.08 at 2:25 pm

As a former Marine from the Vietnam era I find this information concerning John McCain’s blocking any attempt to track down our missing soldiers very unpatriotic. People forget that his father ran all military operations in Vietnam. This certainly looks like his life in politics was ill gained at the expense of his fellow soldiers and sadly their families too.

This should come out on National TV, so that we don’t have another pretender for the presidency.

Sincerely, A saddened former Marine.

charrington 02.07.08 at 3:16 pm

Welcome James,

We appreciate your comments and personally I can tell you I lost a brother in Viet Nam and I’m not at all happy about McCain’s road blocks to the truth. I also happen to think McCain is not worthy of leading this country.

Nate Jaeger 02.12.08 at 1:36 pm

Well first you have to look at the facts on Kerry.He was from a family like Joe Kennedy who planned his career up to the White House.Don’t you plan your vacations in advance so you have a good one.If I could get to Viet Nam knowing my family could get me out if I couldn’t control my hero building, I would go too.We laughed when Kerry spent 4 months, most of which was sipping beers at base camp in friendly territory.He picked his missions,picked his injuries,wrote his “after action reports,gave himself,with the help of others on his shirt tails, three purple hearts and went back to Washington as a decorated vet and opposer of the war.He knew the movement against the war was growing and the polls and hippie inside info he was getting told him to be a political lightning rod as a anti war man.You notice he supported and still supports the Iraq war which has gone on for 5 years.Don’t want to bring those boys and girls home does he?Same boys and girls he fought to bring home from Viet Nam but no political gain now.We used tell him he was “tripping out” and he said all he did was a doobie once in a while.We meant “Three Purple Hearts” and you get to transfer home to a duty station of your own.All Kerry should get is The Medal Of Honor for being a phoney.I remember us telling him not to fire the 50 cal.(it wasn’t secured to the mount) until we trained him and he did anyway.Knocked it into the water along with himself.Just a rich boy idiot!!!!!!!!!

Nate Jaeger 02.12.08 at 1:40 pm

You have the Clintonistas or a Black Man who is moving into a Political arena he can’t really manage and is bound to fail, with an administration as bad as the City of Detroit’s. or Wacko McCain.I think I’ll stay home.

John McCain Is No “Hero POW”
He was a survivor

John McCain seriously violated the Military Code of Conduct by trading “military information” and making numerous public statements that appeared favorable to the communist war effort in exchange for “special treatment.”

The Code: Consisting of six articles in simple language, the United States Military Code of Conduct orders American military personnel to resist capture at all cost and if captured; to attempt to escape, to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number and date of birth, to take charge if senior, to obey orders of the seniors, to accept no favors from the enemy and to make no written or oral statements disloyal to the United States.

In the original writing, the Code was declared the definitive code specifying the responsibilities of American military personnel while in combat or captivity.

The Code holds U.S. prisoners of war responsible to protect–at whatever cost–the cause for which the United States stands by continuing to carry on some form of resistance with the enemy. The establishment of the Code of Conduct was the result of what was considered in 1955 an embarrassing high number of U.S. servicemen held prisoner during the Korean War who apparently did little to resist collaborating with the enemy.

According to a Congressional Research Service Report (CRS), one out of every three American prisoners of the North Koreans and Chinese collaborated. The degree of collaboration ranged from such serious offenses as actually siding with the enemy to the relatively insignificant offense of broadcasting Christmas greetings home and therefore putting the communists in favorable light.

Although collaborating with the enemy is nothing new, there were a number of examples of it during WWII, its ramifications caused considerable damage to the morale and survival of U.S. POWs during the Korean War and later the Vietnam War.

The Korean War marked a new dimension in the relationship between U.S. servicemen taken prisoner and their captors. For the first time, U.S. prisoners of war were viewed by an enemy as more than soldiers from the other side temporarily restrained from conducting war. It was the first war fought by the United States against an enemy whose pathological desire to control the minds of U.S. prisoners extended the war into the POW camps.

North Korean and Chinese communists were not hesitant to use brutal and bloody torture as gruesome tools in their efforts to exploit U.S. prisoners of war into making public statements that appeared favorable to the communist war effort.

Communist interrogators also sought to further control their prisoners by manipulating them into looking to the detaining authorities as a source of leadership, thereby breaking down the leadership and internal discipline within the POW population.

In previous wars, prisoners were subjected to some inhumane and brutal treatment, but the enemy did not take it upon itself to tear down the chain of command within the prisoner ranks.

When the communists succeeded, a condition of distrust among the prisoners became the norm rather than the exception. Morale dropped and mutual assistance among the prisoners lessened.Chaos followed and the failure of the POWs to care for their fellow prisoners resulted in a higher death rate and made the captives more amenable to accept the doctrine of their captors.

Very few American servicemen were mentally prepared to protect themselves from such barbaric treatment and intense indoctrination attempts.

Through inhumane treatment and manipulation, many prisoners were forced to collaborate with the communists. Twenty-one chose to remain in China, refusing repatriation.

After the termination of the hostilities in Korea and the subsequent release of American prisoners of war, many former U.S. prisoners were criminally charged and tried for offenses that “amounted to treason, desertion to the enemy, mistreatment of fellow prisoners of war, and similar crimes.”

The emotions and compassion of the public were aroused, as graphic details of the inhumane treatment of U.S. POWs in communist prison camps surfaced during the trials. Public discussion caused intense arguments over what should have been done about Americans who were “brainwashed” in Korea and what to do about those in future wars who may be the recipients of similar bloody treatment.

On August 7, 1954, the Secretary of Defense directed that a committee be formed to recommend a suitable approach for conducting a comprehensive study of the problems related to the entire Korean War POW experience. The work of that committee resulted in the May 17, 1955 appointment of the Defense Advisory Committee on Prisoners of War, headed by Carter L. Burgess, assistant secretary of defense for Manpower and Personnel.

The committee took heed of the ongoing divisive debate, noting that while all services had regulations governing the conduct of prisoners of war, “the United States armed forces have never had a clearly defined code of conduct applicable to American prisoners after capture.”

Claiming the new code had been hammered out of “home-forged” American principles with no room for turncoats–prisoners who declare their allegiance to the enemy–the committee conceded that the Code did, however, allow special consideration for those who yield only under torture.

A Presidential commission was appointed after the Vietnam War, in 1976, to reevaluate the code of 1955. After a study, the commission recommended a subtle revision to Article V which, in its original form, stated: When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am bound to only give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

President Carter ordered the revision in 1977. The word “bound” was changed to “required” and the word “only” was deleted.

John McCain’s Collaborations:

During his 23rd mission over Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, Lt. Commander John McCain was shot down by a surface-to-air missile.

To relate the event, McCain later recalled that he was “flying right over the heart of Hanoi in a dive at about 4,500 feet, when a Russian missile the size of a telephone pole came up–the sky was full of them–and blew the right wing off my Skyhawk dive bomber. It went into an inverted, almost straight-down spin. -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

“I pulled the ejection handle, and was knocked unconscious by the force of the ejection–the air speed was about 500 knots. I didn’t realize it at the moment, but I had broken my right leg around the knee, my right arm in three places and my left arm. I regained consciousness just before I landed by parachute in a lake right in the center of Hanoi, one they called the Western Lake. My helmet and my oxygen mask had been blown off. “I hit the water and sank to the bottom . . . I did not feel any pain at the time, and I was able to rise to the surface. I took a breath of air and started sinking again.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

After bobbing up and down, he was eventually pulled from the water by Vietnamese who had swam out to get him.

A mob gathered on shore and McCain was bayoneted in the foot and his shoulder was smashed with a rifle butt. He was put on a truck and taken to Hanoi’s main prison.

After being periodically slapped around for “three or four days” by his captors who wanted military information from him, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, “O.K., I’ll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.” -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

McCain was taken to Gai Lam military hospital normally unavailable to American POWS. (U.S. government documents)

“Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship’s name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant.” Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press began quoting him giving specific military information.

One report dated read, “To a question of the correspondent, McCain answered: ‘My assignment to the Oriskany, I told myself, was due to serious losses in pilots, which were sustained by this aircraft carrier (due to its raids on the North Vietnam territory – VNA) and which necessitated replacements. From 10 to 12 pilots were transferred like me from the Forrestal to the Oriskany. Before I was shot down, we had made several sorties. Altogether, I made about 23 flights over North Vietnam.’”

In that report, McCain was quoted describing the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.

Through the Freedom of Information Act, the U.S. Veteran Dispatch acquired a declassified Department of Defense (DOD) transcript of an interview prominent French television reporter Francois Chalais had with McCain.

Chalais told of his private interview with POW McCain in a series titled Life in Hanoi, which was aired in Europe. In the series, Chalais said his meeting with McCain was “a meeting which will leave its mark on my life.”

“My meeting with John Sidney McCain was certainly one of those meetings which will affect me most profoundly for the rest of my life. I had asked the North Vietnamese authorities to allow me to personally interrogate an American prisoner. They authorized me to do so. When night fell, they took me—without any precautions or mystery–to a hospital near the Gia Lam airport reserved for the [North Vietnamese] military. (passage omitted) The officer who receives me begins: I ask you not to ask any questions of political nature. If this man replies in a way unfavorable to us, they will not hesitate to speak of ‘brainwashing’ and conclude that we threatened him.

“‘This John Sidney McCain is not an ordinary prisoner. His father is none other than Admiral Edmond John McCain, commander in chief of U.S. naval forces in Europe. (passage omitted)’”

“. . . Many visitors came to talk to me [John McCain]. Not all of it was for interrogation. Once a famous North Vietnamese writer-an old man with a Ho Chi Minh beard-came to my room, wanting to know all about Ernest Hemingway . . . Others came to find out about life in the United States. They figured because my father had such high military rank that I was of the royalty or governing circle . . . One of the men who came to see me, whose picture I recognized later, was Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, the hero of Dienbienphu.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

Vietnamese doctors operate (early December 1967) on McCain’s Leg. Later that month, six weeks after he was shot down, McCain was taken from the hospital and delivered to a POW camp, Room No. 11 in “The Plantation” and into the hands of two other U.S. POWs, Air Force majors George “Bud” Day and Norris Overly. They helped further nurse him along until he was eventually able to walk by himself. –Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

McCain, Day and Overly, were relocated (early January 1968) to “another end of the camp, a place we called ‘the Corn Crib.’” A group of “obviously senior” Communist Party members visited and talked with McCain. –Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

Overly was offered and he accepted early release. He was released February 16. –Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

Overly was released with David Matheny and John Black. “They were the first three POW’s to be released by the North Vietnamese.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

In March, Day was “relocated” to another cell.–Faith of My Fathers by John McCain. A month later, McCain was “moved into another building, the largest cell block in the camp, ‘the Warehouse.’” Day was moved to another prison (the Zoo). McCain began solitary confinement.–Faith of My Fathers by John McCain

For nearly two years, McCain’s communist handlers kept him isolated from other U.S. prisoners. Because they considered him a “special prisoner,” McCain became the target of intense indoctrination and psychological programs the communists had perfected during the Korean War.

The communists were very much aware that POW McCain would be under great psychological pressure not to do or say anything that would tarnish his famous military family and they considered that to be the key to eventually breaking and then “turning” him. McCain’s handlers kept meticulous records of his behavior, including his personal strengths, weaknesses and any special favors he may have accepted while under the pressure of isolation.

McCain’s interrogators considered him a “special prisoner.” They believed that because he came from a “royal family,” he would, when finally released, return to the United States to some important military or government job.

Because he was kept isolated from other U.S. prisoners during these years of captivity, no one, except McCain and his captors, know exactly to what he was subjected or how he responded. Most information in the public record detailing McCain’s experience with the North Vietnamese during this time frame came from McCain and McCain only.

“In May of 1968, I [McCain] was interviewed by two North Vietnamese generals at separate times.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

McCain claimed (page 133 of The Nightingale’s Song, by Robert Timberg) that he was first offered early release (parole) in late June, 1968. He said that after months of interrogation he was “summoned” to a room that had soft chairs and a glass table on which were “cookies, a pot of tea, and cigarettes.”

He said “Major Bai, known to the prisoners as the Cat,” was waiting for him. He said “a second Vietnamese known as the Rabbit, stood by to serve as translator.”

McCain said that as he “helped himself” to the cookies, tea and cigarettes, the Cat began speaking through the translator. He said they talked about “his father, other members of his family, the war.” McCain said that after about two of talk, the Cat asked him if he wanted to be released. The Cat, according to McCain, told him to go back to his cell and think about it.–The Nightingale’s Song.

McCain said that three nights later the Cat sent for him and again asked him if he wanted to go home. McCain said he answered No. –The Nightingale’s Song

A week later, according to McCain, he was taken to a room in which the camp commander, who the prisoners had nicknamed Slopehead, was waiting. McCain said ten guards and an interrogator nicked named The Prick was also in the room. –The Nightingale’s Song

McCain said the guards charged into him beating and kicking him until he ‘lay on the floor, bloody, arms and legs throbbing, ribs cracked, several teeth broken off at the gumline.” The Vietnamese, according to McCain, wanted him to confess to being a “black criminal.” –The Nightingale’s Song

McCain said he was next introduced for the first time to the “torture ropes.” He said the torture went on for several days before he broke and agreed to write and sign a confession that he was a “black criminal.” McCain said that he was moved to another building away from the other POWs. –The Nightingale’s Song

McCain said (page 136) that he was so distraught because he had signed the statement that he attempted suicide but was stopped when a guard burst into the room. –The Nightingale’s Song

In August 1968, other POWs learned for the first time that John McCain had been taken prisoner (page 137) after Charlie Plumb and Kay Russell figured out that the “mystery” prisoner in a neighboring cell is McCain. –The Nightingale’s Song

A September 13, 1968, cable from Averell Harriman, U.S. ambassador-at-large, to the State Department confirmed that McCain’s captors had offered him early release, but that he had refused. The cable reported that, according to the Vietnamese, “Commander McCain feared that if he was released before the war is over, President [Lyndon] Johnson might ’cause difficulties’ for his father because people will wonder if McCain had been brainwashed.” Harriman speculated that instead, McCain was abiding by the Code of Conduct.– The Phoenix New Times March 25, 1999

June 1969 – “Reds Say PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral. . . Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of United States Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.” New York Daily News, June 5, 1969

“The English-Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a series using American prisoners. It was in response to a plea by Defense Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat prisoners according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the Geneva Convention.” The Washington Post

In December, McCain was moved out of “The Plantation” and into a “one man cell” in the “Hanoi Hilton.”. On Christmas Eve, McCain chatted with the Cat. They talked about McCain refusing early release. –The Nightingale’s Song

“There was pressure to see American antiwar delegations, which seemed to increase as the time went on. But, there wasn’t any torture.

In January 1970, I [McCain] was taken to a quiz with ‘The Cat.’ He told me that he wanted me to see a foreign guest.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

A declassified DOD document reports an interview between POW McCain and Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist who was living in Cuba at the time. The interview was published in the Havana Granma in January 1970.

According to the DOD report, the meeting between Barral and McCain (which was photographed by the Vietnamese) took place away from the prison at the office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations in Hanoi. During the meeting, POW McCain sipped coffee and ate oranges and cakes with his interrogator.

While talking with Barral, McCain seriously violated the military Code of Conduct by failing to evade answering questions “to the utmost” of his ability when he, according to the DOD report, helped Barral by answering questions in Spanish, a language McCain had learned in school.

1973 – McCain was released from the Hilton on March 15, 1973.

Two Former POWs Say They Doubt McCain Was Physically Abused

1999 – March 25, 1999, The Phoenix New Times: Ted Guy and Gordon “Swede” Larson, two former POWs, who were McCain’s senior ranking officers (SRO’s), at the time McCain says he was tortured in solitary confinement, told the New Times that while they could not guarantee that McCain was not physically harmed, they doubted it.

“Between the two of us, it’s our belief, and to the best of our knowledge, that no prisoner was beaten or harmed physically in that camp [known as "The Plantation"],” Larson says. “. . . My only contention with the McCain deal is that while he was at The Plantation, to the best of my knowledge and Ted’s knowledge, he was not physically abused in any way. No one was in that camp. It was the camp that people were released from.”

In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to make public the records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs.

Nate Jaeger 02.12.08 at 1:47 pm

I was asked to perform on the campaign trail for Kerry and refused.I have been asked to perform for the Clintons and Obama and I have declined.I entertain people, I don’t deceive them.

Nate Jaeger (STILETTO)
http://www.natejaeger.com
Former Viet Nam Vet,Scout Sniper,USMC

charrington 02.13.08 at 2:15 am

Thanks Nate .. good stuff. I really think McCain is unfit to ‘rule’…

Hawthorne Wingo 02.28.08 at 1:18 am

All I can say is . . . WOW! My questions are: (1) why is this only getting attention now, and (2) why hasn’t the “main stream media” aired any of this stuff? The sources seem pretty reliable I must say.

This campaign is getting to be pretty fascinating. Boy, if this stuff circulates in the media like it should, the legend of John McCain is about to go down in flames.

joehick 03.18.08 at 2:27 pm

Can anyone tell me the names of fellow Pow’s that can attest to these stories? I would like to speak with them.
TY

Charrington 03.18.08 at 3:31 pm

Yes Joehick,

If you are really interested you can start by going to the “vets against Mc Cain” web site. There’s also about 20 or so video’s at Youtube.com, not to mention you could always email the gentlemen in the video. Of course there’s always google if thats not too much work …

If you watched all the videos on Mc Cain they talked about a book, in that book are a ton of named and quoted references.

enjoy …

joehick 03.18.08 at 5:54 pm

thank you for the info. I have begun talking to former POW’s and they seem to have a different take on this. As a RVN vet myself this is critical mass to me. I need to know the truth and will find it.
Thanks again,
JH

Charrington 03.18.08 at 9:33 pm

You bet Joe,

Let us know what you find. I’ll continue to post on this subject.

Here’s a couple more I’ve found:

The Mythical John Mc Cain and
John Mc Cain’s suicide attempt

michelle slocum 05.06.08 at 9:25 pm

i looked uu your web site because ther is no one in this world girlearliy girlearily that dislikes the whole polictic
process that we are induring aat this time as a matter of fact some of the 20000-2008 music has been written and sung forclueless mail order husbands. Thanks for this i’ll read it later I’m tired but tinker bell is always in the atmoshere
kinda goryyy

Michelle

Banana Vortex 05.23.08 at 3:18 am

Your blog post on “like father like son” traitor McCain is a sign that more people are waking up to see the monsters who are destroying America from within.

However…

The world is a very different place than what you have been programmed to believe. The citizens of America, the people of any country can be likened to small ocean krill tossed to and fro by the unstoppable waves of their corrupt governments.

Today Presidents, national governments, democracies, political parties, elections, Constitutions, international treaties, etc., are only empty promises used to instill (where there is none) a sense of personal power in people – that they exercise control over their leaders, their government’s affairs and their country’s future.

All governments today are ruled by an elite society of financiers hinged upon the central banking system and modeled after the Bank of London. At the top of the control pyramid sits the Rothschild families of France and England and their many front organizations.

The UN, the Trilateral Commission, the Council On Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg meetings, the criminal outpost Israel, etc., etc. are all but single pieces which define the control hierarchy of our modern world government. At the core of this mechanism is a time-tested, divide and conquer strategy.

In other words, this strategy creates disturbances in the fabric of societies (by whatever means) to fragment and separate the masses on all issues – pitting management against workers, race against race, religion against religion, etc. ad infinitum.

In the midst of this eternal drama, people are unable to come together in unity toward common goals, or in defense against their common enemy.

During the ensuing confusion and endless loop of debates, the control hierarchy is free to do as it wills, while the populace is guided and herded to think, believe and act in any way its master sees fit.

Our controllers’ leading weapons of choice are the channels of information dissemination – namely the media, the education systems, printing empires and political pundits.

While the many tend to blame one country, one government, or one political party over another for the world’s woes, little do they realize that forces acting in the shadows, unseen in the background are causing the problems then offering solutions to carefully orchestrate a desired outcome.

The people of any country are but pawns in a systematic game that’s been played out for thousands of years using the ignorance, superstition, ego and greed of men as the means to manipulate any population.

There are other common denominators at play, though the above is a general outline of your world’s governments.

From Iran, Russia, China and Australia, to America, England, Mexico, Cuba and Brazil – and all other countries on the planet, each are members, each have formed a special agreement with the others, each have carefully choreographed scripts to play out on the world stage.

We have become but cattle – allowed to graze within the perimeter fence – so long as we do not speak too loudly, or threaten to expose the grand deception.

In the end, the sum of mankind’s truths are an inherited series of falsehoods designed to keep you distracted from your true purpose, your true power – away from the interdependent singularity that connects us all.

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101st 07.26.08 at 4:41 pm

It’s time to release allofthis stuff and let Senator McCain answer the tough questions.If he wants to lead,fess up and get the North Vietnamese to open all the documents and let the chips fall where they may.

Wuud52 09.05.08 at 9:48 am

I do not blame McCain at all for anything he said to the Communists. Who knows what I would have done under those circumstances. McCain did get to come home to his loved ones though. I do blame him for hiding information that could let other people find out about their loved ones just like McCain’s family got to find out about him. The heroic thing to do would be to sacrifice your reputation for the benefit of those who did not get to come home and their loved ones.

Charrington 09.05.08 at 12:09 pm

His fellow prisoners blame him sense they didn’t get special treatment like McCain did and they didn’t “rollover” like McCain did.

Also lets not forget that his father the senator pulled strings for him and he never flew anywhere near the same amount of missions the others did.

I blame him — for continuing the lie and then trying to hide it by denying other Americans access to important information to find their own MIA loved ones to bring home.

he actually BLOCKED them from doing that just so people wouldn’t find out about his treason. No friend McCain is a coward and a liar.

Jerry Bridges 09.24.08 at 5:08 am

My comments will be few regarding these things being said about this man and his war record — I believe he did exactly as he himself told us, i.e., he gave military information for medical treatment because he was afraid he was going to die. He did it, no doubt about it, and I can understand it BUT I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HIM TO BE PRESIDENT AND THEREFORE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF OUR ARMED FORCES. We’re just about to finish up with something very similar — a deserter from the Air National Guard // and his right hand man (himself a five time deferment winner during the Vietnam era) which tells me it’s about time for the good ol’ USA to WAKE UP and stop making excuses for these sorts About time we elected someone truly loyal to our country in the driver’s seat — VOTE OBAMA 2008. My $.02

JB
MSgt, 26 years active duty U.S. Army retired, Vietnam Vet(66-67)

Mr. Charrington 09.25.08 at 3:15 am

I tend to believe his cell mates and fellow officers in this matter since they were there with him the whole time.

I also tend to question someone that is so intent on keeping secrets especially when it’s his fellow prisoners missing in action that he’s hiding? Why?

No offense but I don’t think either one are worthy of running this country and neither one represent “real” change. Sadly were just heading further down the wrong path.

William Corbi 10.06.08 at 1:55 pm

How can anyone say ehat happened in the POW camp? Why not do a study of Obamas history? I know that both men are poor excuses to be running for President. I am more worried, about Obamas hate church, and all his radical friends. God help our nation!!

charrington 10.06.08 at 10:26 pm

Because William, the vets that served with him in the prison camp came back and told people about it.

It’s a matter of record now he sold America out. He made over 35 anti American propaganda while a prisoner.

Keating 5 is next on the list that is never ending. At this point I’m willing to say you have to be a fucking moron to vote for McCain.

Obama wont change anything either…

Montreville Blakely 10.23.08 at 12:50 am

I served in S. Korea in Aug. 1970 to Sept. 1971,
I was a 17 year old UH-ID 67N2F ChrewChief in the
239th Asslt./ Helicopter (Spec.OpTac). We had guys come over from Vietnam for TDY-DROS assignments. I remember Larry Kellum, another ChrewChief 67N2F that recalled all kinds of odd stories concerning betrayals. McCain seems to fit in the capacity of a newby on the ground, just like the newby brass stories of officers who demanded attention from all those well seasoned Vietnam Vets. Most of those guys ended up being taught lessons of respect out in the field, according to Larry. We had a CID srew up that cost the lives of 4 in our Company and 1 CID Operative acting as a O.M. Technical Inspector. He blew a 400hr. REDX Time Inspection and then hurried it up as to not upset Formation in Flight Plans. I noticed a safety wire tied in a (S) shape, when it needed to be in a Backward (S) shape. The Crew Chief was notified and the Technical Inspector said, (he’ld take a look at it)! The Bird crashed, my guess is the tail pipe gave way, as the Eng.Coweling poppedup into the Main Rotor and split the Driveshaft Assembly to the Tail Rotor. Cause, they didn’t change the Safety Wire around on the “C” Clamp. The Official Cause according to the FAA/CivilEng.’s, was a frooze-up #2 Tail-Rotor Driveshaft Bearing. The whole Company was put through a Demotion Process and Capt. Shaw O.M. Officer- was Decommissioned out of Service over this event. In turn, the CID was covering up it’s mistake, even to this day! John Shroeder was one of my best friends there, and he took over my old ship as a new Chrew Chief. My gues is that the REDX was just signed off in haste and not really looked at! Thus, CID prefrencial treatment.
On another note concerning John McCain III, I remember a blog about Admiral McCain Jr knowing were hisson was, but opted to leave his son there! So, maybe McCain III was in denial over ababdonement///i,e,- Repression to Opression to Depression in 5 1/2 years. It works this way,- he hurts other people to vent the hurt in him. He probably thinks the American People didn’t care; so, he turns right around and shows no concern for the POW’s lost. Kind of a – out of sight, out of mind denial. So, I believe he’s just learned of this truth in the last couple of years, -about his dad.

Montreville Blakely VETERAN/HONORABLE S. KOREA UH-ID CC 10.24.08 at 8:05 am

Hey out there, You are all invited- I miss you guys From: toozblues@hotmail.com You Know…, Google This: TRUTH John McCain CENSOR POW’s Google This: Sara Palin’s SECRET SOCIETY RITE

Montreville Blakely VETERAN/HONORABLE S. KOREA UH-ID CC 10.24.08 at 11:47 am

Who I am…,

I am a father of nine children, four grandchildren, and four out of our nine children are currently at home going to school/ elementary , middleschool and highschool. I do not run my life through my children- I believe them to be intelligent and full of self discovery as long as they don’t drop below a “C” average.Ha Ha …, My granchildren call me “PAPPY”. None of my family smokes tobacco. As my wife and I don’t.
My wife works for the local school system as a preschool teachers helper and is a Director The After School Program; in addition, she fills in as a part-time daycare worker during the summer. In her personal life, she is the praise and worship leader/ musician in our church. I tag along as her guitarist from time to time, even though I play out in secular engagements as well. Together, we weathered the storms of life and have picked ourselves up to become stronger.

As a veteran, I believe to- S.O.L.U.T.E. our freedom, pursuit of happiness, civil and human rights of all Americans/ Race, Creed, and Color.

I’ve wathched our country go up in dowm in politics as well as our job markets. I’m affected as a construction worker primarily in the Drywall Finishing aspect of construction. New construction is dictated by economics, as Remodeling construction markets seem more lucrative as a viable market and means in low economic times!
Why are we giving our jobs away to other countries? Who’s in charge here; the people or the government? Why have our Elected Officials allow no restraints on Wall Street creating a runaway inflated market? Our elected officials are suppose to help us maintain a prosperous way of life- that’s why we vote for leaders/ to serve and protect us; both- Foriegn and Domestic/America!

Ask Dr. LARRY BATES / ECONOMIST c/o SID ROTH about the real story of Wall Street and who makes the decision on our American wy of life. You’ll be surprised- to know!
Simply put, we need ACCOUNTABILITY in all phases of government. We need to be informed, not as to stir up panic, but- to prepare us for debilatating economies and markets. Wars are exspensive, both; in battle and in reconstruction of countries affected by war. So, careful intervention in negotiations should be the first reasoning to postpone any act of war- hopefully to adjust to a treaty or compromise in favorable postures; i.e. calm the agression!

Hey, I play a mean but sweet guitar- I’m a bonafied BluesGuitarist, SingerSongwriter. I took my guitar with me throughout my military tour, even through basic traing. The ARMY RECRUITER told me if I could take the neck of my guitar and if it fits into my duffle bag, then I could take it! So, I did- and that’s all I got to say about that! Ha Ha.
I play guitar for NATALIE MERCHANT in collaboration- c/o http://www.giveusyourpoor.org – a song titled “THERE IS NO REASON” by Nichole L./ Cooper, produced by JOHN McGAH and NILS GUMS – watch us in studio at http://www.nataliemerchant.org , as we built this song together…, go to Natalie’s site and click on the Give Us Your Poor recording session. Also, look under the events catagory with Give Us Your Poor .Org and preview the Concert Nov 16th 2007. Other media is a movie that follows,”IT FEELS LIKE HOME”…,
World class musicians on this album titled, ” GIVE US YOUR POOR ” are as follows
; NATALIE MERCHANT and Friends/(me and others), BONNIE RAITT, KEB MO’, PETE SEEGER,
JON BON JOVI, BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, WEEPIN WILLIE ROBINSON, and a host of others,etc..

I’m not ridin’ a high horse here, but- the great percentage of proceeds goes to homeless shelters where 25% are Homeless Veterans! Please support my friends and I as we get the voice out with a SHOUT concerning our poverty in this country! Thanks-Monte

I’m in another movie hosted by Producer Dan Wilkins NAVY VETERAN / LEGACY FILMS- The man that discovered me homeless in my schoolbus behind EVO’s COFFEE HOUSE, ASHLAND, OREGON in the parking lot with guitar. Iwas filmed for a movie called-
” HAVE YOU SEEN C.L.E.M. “…, I have three songs in this movie/ 1) HAWTHORNE STREET BLUES, 2) INSIDE A RAINBOW, 3) DOWN THAT ROAD
AGAIN. Note: DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN is on a trailer album titled,” STREET MUSIC “/ bootleg version #42 by Legacy Films Inc. in the Acoustic Blues Section on http://www.cdbaby.com , both; Street Music and Give Us Your Poor albums are located here on http://www.cdbaby.com …, http://www.clembuzz.com is a preview website for HAVE YOU SEEN C.L.E.M.

All us VETERANS have come a long way in our hopes and dreams…, I’m just a lightweight compared to most veterans in time of war. Capt. Shaw was O.M. Officer and my Pilot- he witnessed a near bullseye that just glazed the tip of my right ear on a right angle bank near the LZ/DMZ where North and South KOREA meet! I thought it was a bird wizzin’ by me as the suction startled the hell out of me! Capt. Shaw said, ( you better check that ear, it’s bleeding profusely…, and all I did was make movement by taking off my headset to readjust it! It must have been a tracer round- the tip of my ear has never healed and keeps scabbing over! I was in a Special Po’Tac unit Detached from the 239th Asslt Hel. Co, Camp Stanley. I played music in a small combo with John Anderson and Kris Kribbs also from the same unit. We did well at the Camp Long Battle of The Bands 1971. We also played the N.C.O’s and Officer’s Lounge there at Camp Stanley.
I had the previledge of meeting many TDY and DEROS Vietnam Veterans needing a break from all the pressures of war, Larry Kellum was one of those Vet’s, always a smile and always with a girl for company! Us Veterans support one another, but, to betray our trust would be a agro’ move on anyones part- especially one of us Veterans. I do not consider a collaborator with our enemies a Veteran at all, to betray our brothers and sisters in arms, is to commit high treason. Anyone that gives away our location, size of troops, war plans and missions- has just copromized our trust, thus killing their own and allies! We are to be fighting to preserve our country and the freedom we all enjoy- GET THIS RIGHT, AMERICA

Montreville Blakely VETERAN/HONORABLE S. KOREA UH-ID CC 10.24.08 at 4:00 pm

Here’s my rebuttle to the Minority Report; Note: My Blog was flagged/ or another word-
censored, I guess those folks got their feathers ruffled!

I named the blog: AMERICAS’S BLUES

Here’s what I said:

Home :: blogs :: Montreville Blakely’s blog
AMERICA’S BLUES
By Montreville Blakely – Posted on October 21st, 2008
Tagged: Op-Ed
What we use to have 30 years ago:

* We had jobs

What happened since then to our jobs? :

* They were given away by our Government and Bigger Corporatrions.

Who dictates the American Way of Life?

* Ask Dr. LARRY BATES / ECONOMIST – aired on SID ROTH ! You will be surprised!

Who tainted away our rights to ask important Governmental Control Issues?

* Need to know bases- pertaining to who’s control and overlording concepts you inquire about! A straight answer/ gues again!

Look on Google / put in – John McCain Censorship P.O.W.’s – in search window/click

* You might be surprised at how John McCain was pardoned, when in fact – the POW’s left behind wanted to tell their side of the story! You will be shocked!!!

Barack Obama choose the Grass Roots support for ELECTION FUNDING…, and guess what- THE PEOPLE WANT HIM and dug in their pockets TO PROCURE THEIR VOICE

John McCain choose GOVERNMENT SUPPORT- JUST TO PLAY IT SAFE i guess – as not to alarm the American Public to SPECIAL INTEREST hand holding!

So, why does McCain whine about his choice!!!? It seems most of the things he’s accused Obama of relects most of what McCain is!!!

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So, some not so gentleman said,(take your med’s and go to sleep)…, as a comment to this post!

Do me a favor, will you guys, tell the Minority Report what you think about their censorship!Will Ya’! Is it me, or is there some control issues with the GOP affiliate’s and their censorship of free equitable speech!

VETERAN 10.25.08 at 2:31 pm

To all the lovely staff and our assured next
President-Barack Obama / Vice- President- Joe Biden …, here’s the winning ticket and PROOF

Something to help clarify mock-up assult:
It’s in your hands now with interested parties waiting upon your televised results.

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at-Largely
McCain campaign over as is Drudge’s career…
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:08 PM CDT
Well then, take a gander: John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established — and even told reporters outright that the “B” carved into the victim’s cheek stood for “Barack,” according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions. John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain’s Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, “You’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.” Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the “B” stood for Barack. According to Verrilli, the spokesperson also told KDKA that Sarah Palin had called the victim of the alleged attack, who has since admitted the story was a hoax. The KDKA reporter had called McCain’s campaign office for details after seeing the story — sans details — teased on Drudge. The McCain spokesperson’s claims — which came in the midst of extraordinary and heated conversations late yesterday between the McCain campaign, local TV stations, and the Obama camp, as the early version of the story rocketed around the political world — is significant because it reveals a McCain official pushing a version of the story that was far more explosive than the available or confirmed facts permitted at the time. The claims to KDKA from the McCain campaign were included in an early story that ran late yesterday on KDKA’s Web site. The paragraphs containing these assertions were quickly removed from the story after the Obama campaign privately complained that KDKA was letting the McCain campaign spin a racially-charged version of the story before the facts had been established, according to two sources familiar with the discussions. Forget the woman who made this up for a moment. The two bigger questions are: * Was the McCain campaign behind the creation of this hoax? (because how could they have the details of the case, enough to create an even more incendiary version of the story, before all the facts were known?) * If the McCain camp was not behind this attack, then why was their most immediate concern not for the victim, but instead, for how to best make a tragic (if true) situation that could split the nation over the issue of racism into a political score for themselves? The McCain campaign is over. Period. I don’t care what the explanation is, a leader does not pour gasoline on a racial fire for any reason. A leader’s first concern would be how to best deal with the crisis and how to best help the victim, while minimizing the anger in both the white and black communities. A leader does not rape a nation for a score. John McCain is not a leader. He is an opportunist, at best. Oh, and Drudge should finally be flushed from the inter-tubes. His 15 minutes of blue-dress fame should have ended years ago. You don’t run a story this potentially damaging to the community without doing actual checking of the facts. You don’t publish this rubbish unless you are a paid propagandist, which of course we know Drudge is.

Racists are on the march…
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:09 PM CDT
I am in Vegas (more on that later) and the freaks on the McCain campaign win hands down with the stuff I have seen here in the last 48 hours. As you likely now know, a white woman working on the McCain campaign claimed to have been attacked, beaten, cut for politically motivated reasons by a black man. The only problem, is that girlfriend seems to have made-the-whole thing up. Which begs the question: why? Imagine too if this “values voter” managed to pin the made-up crime on some poor black guy in a line-up? Again, what prompted such a horrible and racist act? What motivated this woman?

McCain Surrogate -War With Iran Is Certain
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 02:03 PM CDT
Posted By Cernig Republican William Grayson, president of a San Francisco hedge fund company and former general counsel for the San Francisco Republican Central Committee – and “cleared by the McCain campaign to serve as a McCain surrogate”:”Let me assure…

Johnny and the Warmongers Part III
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:49 AM CDT
by Jeff Huber Parts I and II described John McCain’s position in the neoconservative daisy chain. Part III discusses McCain’s tireless fundraising efforts on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex of America. Among John McCain’s more preposterous campaign promises is…

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JOHN McCAIN’s CENSORED POW’s:

http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html#comment-9627
SARA PALIN’s LITTLE ALASKAN SECRET:

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:oVnZMlN3H9cJ:endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/sarah-palin-and-the-freemasons-and-order-of-eastern-stars/+Sarah+Palin+SECRET+MASONIC+ORDER&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

VETERAN 10.25.08 at 2:42 pm

McCain is being watched by the best in the west…, THE GREAT HELLO

SALUTE S>A>L>U>T>E> WHITE SWAN, COBRA MAN…,

PUT THE CHANGE IN THE KITTY…,

THE WAKE UP CALL WAS TRIAXIUM

GO PAST GO

HELLO

GAME OVER

VETERAN 10.25.08 at 3:19 pm

THE GREAT HELLO

600 x 788 – 79k – jpg
http://www.patriotsrevolt.com

BETRAYAL; THERE IS NO GOOD REASON

COLLABORATING WITH THE ENEMY DURING A TIME OF WAR, MANY LIVES WERE LOST

VETERAN 10.26.08 at 12:46 pm

VOTING CANDY

To: info@barackobama.com
Subject: PROOF on ASSULT CASE
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:22:19 -0700 ;and: THE AMERICAN PUBLIC and WORLD

To all the lovely staff and our assured next
President-Barack Obama / Vice- President- Joe Biden …, here’s the winning ticket and PROOF
PLEASE NOTE:

1)- Something to help clarify mock-up assult:
It’s in your hands now with interested parties waiting upon your televised results, RESULTS BELOW/1)-

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2)- IN ADDITION TO THIS ARE SOME HARD COLD FACTS ABOUT JOHN McCAIN III ;

PLEASE BE ADVISED: UNSUITABLE ANGER/ SUBJECTIVE

EMOTIONALLY MINDED? HE CONTORTS HIS ANSWERS IN UNCONTROLLED ANGER AT NON-THE-

LESS, A WOMAN THAT IS TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT ANSWERS …,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg

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3)- JOHN McCAIN’s CENSORED POW’s ,

http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html#comment-9627

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4)- SARA PALIN’s Little ALASKAN SECRET

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:oVnZMlN3H9cJ:endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/sarah-palin-and-the-freemasons-and-order-of-eastern-stars/+Sarah+Palin+SECRET+MASONIC+ORDER&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:55:44 -0500
From: larisa@larisablog.com

at-Largely
McCain campaign over as is Drudge’s career…
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:08 PM CDT

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1)- REAL TRUTH about THE McCAIN VOTER ASSULT!

at-Largely

Well then, take a gander: John McCain’s Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established — and even told reporters outright that the “B” carved into the victim’s cheek stood for “Barack,” according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions. John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain’s Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, “You’re with the McCain campaign? I’m going to teach you a lesson.” Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the “B” stood for Barack. According to Verrilli, the spokesperson also told KDKA that Sarah Palin had called the victim of the alleged attack, who has since admitted the story was a hoax. The KDKA reporter had called McCain’s campaign office for details after seeing the story — sans details — teased on Drudge. The McCain spokesperson’s claims — which came in the midst of extraordinary and heated conversations late yesterday between the McCain campaign, local TV stations, and the Obama camp, as the early version of the story rocketed around the political world — is significant because it reveals a McCain official pushing a version of the story that was far more explosive than the available or confirmed facts permitted at the time. The claims to KDKA from the McCain campaign were included in an early story that ran late yesterday on KDKA’s Web site. The paragraphs containing these assertions were quickly removed from the story after the Obama campaign privately complained that KDKA was letting the McCain campaign spin a racially-charged version of the story before the facts had been established, according to two sources familiar with the discussions. Forget the woman who made this up for a moment. The two bigger questions are: * Was the McCain campaign behind the creation of this hoax? (because how could they have the details of the case, enough to create an even more incendiary version of the story, before all the facts were known?) * If the McCain camp was not behind this attack, then why was their most immediate concern not for the victim, but instead, for how to best make a tragic (if true) situation that could split the nation over the issue of racism into a political score for themselves? The McCain campaign is over. Period. I don’t care what the explanation is, a leader does not pour gasoline on a racial fire for any reason. A leader’s first concern would be how to best deal with the crisis and how to best help the victim, while minimizing the anger in both the white and black communities. A leader does not rape a nation for a score. John McCain is not a leader. He is an opportunist, at best. Oh, and Drudge should finally be flushed from the inter-tubes. His 15 minutes of blue-dress fame should have ended years ago. You don’t run a story this potentially damaging to the community without doing actual checking of the facts. You don’t publish this rubbish unless you are a paid propagandist, which of course we know Drudge is.

Racists are on the march…
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:09 PM CDT
I am in Vegas (more on that later) and the freaks on the McCain campaign win hands down with the stuff I have seen here in the last 48 hours. As you likely now know, a white woman working on the McCain campaign claimed to have been attacked, beaten, cut for politically motivated reasons by a black man. The only problem, is that girlfriend seems to have made-the-whole thing up. Which begs the question: why? Imagine too if this “values voter” managed to pin the made-up crime on some poor black guy in a line-up? Again, what prompted such a horrible and racist act? What motivated this woman?

McCain Surrogate -War With Iran Is Certain
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 02:03 PM CDT
Posted By Cernig Republican William Grayson, president of a San Francisco hedge fund company and former general counsel for the San Francisco Republican Central Committee – and “cleared by the McCain campaign to serve as a McCain surrogate”:”Let me assure…

Johnny and the Warmongers Part III
Posted: 24 Oct 2008 07:49 AM CDT
by Jeff Huber Parts I and II described John McCain’s position in the neoconservative daisy chain. Part III discusses McCain’s tireless fundraising efforts on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex of America. Among John McCain’s more preposterous campaign promises is…

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2)-JOHN McCAIN’s UNSUITABLE ANGER at a WOMAN standing up for POW’s, especially VIETNAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg

VIEW ALL THE VIDEOS, YOU’LL BE SHOCKED,

by VETERAN

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3)- JOHN McCAIN’s CENSORED POW’s:

http://polidics.com/ethics/fellow-pows-say-john-mccain-was-a-coward-and-a-traitor-in-viet-nam.html#comment-9627

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4)- SARA PALIN’s LITTLE ALASKAN SECRET:

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:oVnZMlN3H9cJ:endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/sarah-palin-and-the-freemasons-and-order-of-eastern-stars/+Sarah+Palin+SECRET+MASONIC+ORDER&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

MONTREVILLE BLAKELY / VETERAN - HONORABLE 10.27.08 at 1:11 pm

Mr.Ross

Hi Brian, I thought I might encourage you as one of the finest reporters I’ve ever viewed in these frustrating times. Your keen eye on injustice show’s you are a man of the heart.
I believe you add balance by way of critical thought.
Just to reflect, your coverage of the rat population here in our Nation shows how government fails to walk their talk.
Does people like Sara Palin look at the upset of ecological balance when either by no action or by wrongful action, as in her bounty on wolves in ALASKA? As an eye opener, plagues from rats could come back on us as a Nation. To kill wolves is to allow the rat population to grow , even in Alaska. The wolves are there for a reason, not for bounty or game hunting. Sara is out of touch, in my opinion- she loves hear hearing herself talk, much like a dictator with a huge ego. Her husband must be frustrated living with such a public icon. Her main theme seems to be attention getting on any unrelated subject matter. This kind of personality discards public service workers, in critical thinking. Example; not understanding democracy and advocating disharmony against her fellow public service workers. Mr. Mulligan was only trying to reason within every persons rights, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, PURSUIT of HAPPINESS-
the right to work without Gov. dictators wrongful use of power. That man lost his job over being a just man in a mind of reason in all respects.
Sara Palin is subjective mindedness an spins on emotion no matter who she hurts…, just like John McCain III. These two will use every negative means in destroying lives of the just; Much like the”DEVIL”.
Insecurity is what I would label the GOP in this event, even though both parties give food for thought! When I order something to eat, I don’t want excuses and mud- slinging just to get a meal. So, why is the GOP trying to force feed us this type of projection? In turn, I’ll just find a better place to eat, not the one that throws food back at me with lame excuses. The GOP has no real working plan, other then to offer up another mud-slinging partner well versed in deception!
You can share all this with the public, you have my permission. At least Mr./ Sen. Barack Obama and his running mate- Joe Biden wouldn’t have to care about little Joe- remember the Cartwrights on Bonanza in the Seventies? The Bigger Brothers like Haus, were always trying to help little Joe out- even though Little Joe didn’t get it! Joe the Plumber really is Little Joe from BONANZA. This Election is BONANZA and Obama is Haus, with the White House as the Ponderosa. Ha! Ha! Ha! Please feel free to use this as your own- you have my permission/ you can even disclose this source, ’cause we’re both in this boat forever – called AMERICA…, and as I see it- we’re trying to keep here afloat!HaHaHaHa- my stomach hurts HaHaHa
Bye Bye, Montreville Blakely

Tell that blogger that dis” me, I don’t need med’s- I have plenty of fun with this sort of nonsense…, only trouble is- it’s commin” from the cream of the crop- and this all we can ear mark for this election…, how do you spell HUMOR- McCain- Palin, leave the rest alone- they’re the only ones left on the table,,, be gentile- they’re fragile

MONTREVILLE BLAKELY / VETERAN - HONORABLE 10.28.08 at 1:47 am

This is the Fifth Revision- I’ve been out of school awhile…, Maybe I’ll go back and learn the literary arts this time around.
Subject: RE: LAUGH WITH ME/ 5th REVISION
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:18:06 -0700

Mr. Ross
Hi Brian, I thought I might encourage you as one of the finest reporters I’ve ever viewed in these frustrating times. Your keen eye on injustice show’s you are a man of the heart.
I believe you add balance by way of critical thought.
Just to reflect, your coverage of the,’ Rat Population ‘ here in our Nation shows how government fails to walk their talk.
Does the people like Sara Palin; look at the upset of ecological balance, when either by no action, or by wrongful action; as in her bounty on wolves in ALASKA? As an eye opener, plagues from rats could come back on us in great numbers upon our GOOD NATION. To kill wolves, is to allow the rat population to grow , it even effects Alaska. The wolves are there for a reason; not for bounty or game hunting. Sara is out of touch in many ways, in my opinion. She loves hearing herself talk it seems, much like a dictator with a huge ego. Her husband must be frustrated living with such a public icon. Her main theme seems to be cluttered in attention getting, especially on any unrelated subject matter. This kind of personality discards public trust and it’s service workers; in critical thinking. Example; not understanding democracy and advocating disharmony and distrust against her fellow public service workers. Mr. Walt -Monaghan was only trying to reason within every citizen’s given RIGHTS, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, PURSUIT of HAPPINESS-the right to work without the Gov.’s wrongful use of power. That man lost his job over being a just man, in a mind of reason, in all respects.
Sara Palin is subjective minded, an spins on her emotion, no matter who she hurts…, just like John McCain III. These two will use every negative means in destroying the character of the just; Much like the same manner of the’DEVIL’; to gain position of power, just to use it wrongfully.
Insecurity is what I would label the GOP in this event, even though both parties give food for thought!
When I order something to eat out, I don’t want excuses and mud- slinging just to get a meal. So, why is the GOP trying to force feed us this type of projection? In turn, I’ll just find a better place to eat, not the one that’s been throwing food back at me with lame excuses. The GOP has no real working plan it seems, other then to offer up the same plan from times past; McCain just picked another mud-slinging partner well versed in deception!
You can share all this with the public, and you have my permission to use parts of it. At least Mr. / Sen. – Barack Obama and his running mate-Mr. / Sen. – Joe Biden wouldn’t have to care much about little Joe- remember the Cartwright’s on Bonanza in the Seventies? The Bigger Brothers like Haus, were always trying to keep little Joe out of trouble, especially in his time of need, even though Little Joe didn’t get it most of the time! Joe the Plumber really is like- Little Joe from BONANZA. This Election is BONANZA and Obama is Haus, with the White House as the Ponderosa. Ha! Ha! Ha! , ’cause we’re all in this boat together for the long haul, called AMERICA…, and as I see it, we’ve been trying to keep her afloat! HaHaHaHa- my stomach hurts HaHaHa, and it’s not really funny!

Tell that blogger that dis’ me, I don’t need med’s- I have plenty of fun without it, and with this sort of nonsense…, only trouble is- it’s commin” from the cream of the crop- and this has me concerned for all Americans. It seems,this is all we can conjure up just to ear mark this election…,Hey, how do you spell HUMOR? Is it-/ McCain- /Palin, it’s not funny, is it?

Please leave the rest alone- for they’re all we’ve got left at the table,,, be gentile- be kind.

Good night ABC, Brian Ross and staff, Thanks again, Montreville Blakely jr/? VETERAN

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Montreville Blakely / AKA VETERAN 01.19.09 at 4:36 pm

GROW UP AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD

Montreville Blakely / AKA VETERAN 01.19.09 at 4:39 pm

YOU should have been here to view who wittnessed your contortive act of censorship.This blog is tainted by controll

charrington 01.23.09 at 3:56 pm

Hmm maybe you should watch the videos again. McCain thinks you are not worth shit pal.

GERAL 10.17.10 at 12:49 pm

ARMY COWARDS CONTINUE TO ENGAGE THEIR DIRTY DEEDS

United States Army Intelligence Officer , ROTC, files a false report against Geral Sosbee and then, in apparent concert with the fbi/police fraudulent attempted sting and criminal assault (by a low level operative) against Sosbee, the government thugs seek a way to imprison him.

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part19-updatefor.html#firstmessage

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part19a-updatefo.html

http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part19b-updatefo.html

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